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Poster: elmagno Date: Jan 5, 2011 6:37pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: An Inside Job?

Sorry, I was going by my past experience of cataloging Blue Angel as PD and then de-cataloging it on the best new information I received.

Anyway, this person is putting up Zulu, Charade and several other well vetted films. I just was wondering about the email address, that maybe it was spoofed or maybe, indeed, these are the days of the condor!

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Poster: matt1900 Date: Jan 5, 2011 9:54pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: An Inside Job?

I think maybe jake@archive.org has gotten some bad information
this is his recent post in the moving images forum
http://www.archive.org/post/341047/100-movies-in-the-public-domain

The Dec. 8 2010 article in the Toronto Sun is a very nice article about the Internet Archives however the writer incorrectly identified some movies as PD when they were not.
this is the article which was published
http://www.torontosun.com/blogs/al_parker/2010/12/08/16480486.html

jake@archive.org was led to believe that these movies were PD and ok to upload. One can only come to the conclusion that because he has a @archive.org e mail address that he is associated with the internet archives.

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Poster: Moongleam Date: Jan 6, 2011 3:09am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: An Inside Job?

I checked some of these. The match for "A Star Is Born" is invalid, so that film seems public domain.



*********************************
*********************************
** ABRAHAM LINCOLN ** 1930 **
*********************************
*********************************

-------------- 1958-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
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---- index_1959-A.txt
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[No matches.]

********************************
********************************
** THE BLUE ANGEL ** 1930 **
********************************
********************************

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********************************
********************************
** THE FRONT PAGE ** 1931 **
********************************
********************************

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---- index_1959-A.txt
[No matches.]
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*******************
*******************
** M ** 1931 **
*******************
*******************

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---- index_1959-A.txt
[No matches.]
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[No matches.]
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************************************
************************************
** A FAREWELL TO ARMS ** 1932 **
************************************
************************************

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[No matches.]
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---- index_1959-A.txt
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******************************
******************************
** HELL'S HOUSE ** 1932 **
******************************
******************************

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---- index_1959-A.txt
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************************
************************
** FREAKS ** 1932 **
************************
************************

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0.000
FREAKS, a photoplay in seven reels by
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Distributing
Corp. (C) 23Feb32; L287O. Loew's,
Inc. (PWH); 2Mar59; R232434.

-------------- 1959-B.txt --------------
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*************************
*************************
** ECSTASY ** 1933 **
*************************
*************************

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****************************************
****************************************
** I COVER THE WATERFRONT ** 1933 **
****************************************
****************************************

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***********************************
***********************************
** RANDY RIDES ALONE ** 1934 **
***********************************
***********************************

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**************************
**************************
** SABOTAGE ** 1936 **
**************************
**************************

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********************************
********************************
** DANCING PIRATE ** 1936 **
********************************
********************************

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******************************
******************************
** SECRET AGENT ** 1936 **
******************************
******************************

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********************************
********************************
** REEFER MADNESS ** 1936 **
********************************
********************************

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******************************
******************************
** DARK JOURNEY ** 1937 **
******************************
******************************

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********************************
********************************
** A STAR IS BORN ** 1937 **
********************************
********************************

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0.133
A STAR IS SHORN, a photoplay in two
reels by Columbia Pictures Corp. of
California. (C) l4Feb39; LP8632.
Columbia Pictures Corp. (PWH);
8Dec66; R399603.


***********************************
***********************************
** DIVORCE OF LADY X ** 1938 **
***********************************
***********************************

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*************************************
*************************************
** TERROR OF TINY TOWN ** 1938 **
*************************************
*************************************

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*************************
*************************
** ALGIERS ** 1938 **
*************************
*************************

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***********************************
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** THE LADY VANISHES ** 1938 **
***********************************
***********************************

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*****************************************
*****************************************
** MAN FROM MUSIC MOUNTAIN ** 1938 **
*****************************************
*****************************************

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*****************************************
*****************************************
** THEY MADE ME A CRIMINAL ** 1939 **
*****************************************
*****************************************

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************************************
************************************
** GULLIVER'S TRAVELS ** 1939 **
************************************
************************************

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*********************************
*********************************
** HIS GIRL FRIDAY ** 1940 **
*********************************
*********************************

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[No matches.]
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---- index_1969-A.txt
[No matches.]
-------------- 1969-B.txt --------------
---- index_1969-B.txt
[No matches.]

********************************
********************************
** SANTA FE TRAIL ** 1940 **
********************************
********************************

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---- index_1969-A.txt
[No matches.]
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---- index_1969-B.txt
[No matches.]

*************************************
*************************************
** KING OF THE ZOMBIES ** 1941 **
*************************************
*************************************

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---- index_1969-A.txt
[No matches.]
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---- index_1969-B.txt
[No matches.]
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-------------- 1968-B.txt --------------
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-------------- 1970-A.txt --------------
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*******************************
*******************************
** MEET JOHN DOE ** 1941 **
*******************************
*******************************

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---- index_1969-A.txt
[No matches.]
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---- index_1969-B.txt
[No matches.]
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[No matches.]
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********************************
********************************
** PENNY SERENADE ** 1941 **
********************************
********************************

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---- index_1969-A.txt
[No matches.]
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---- index_1969-B.txt
[No matches.]
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[No matches.]
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[No matches.]
-------------- 1970-A.txt --------------
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**********************************
**********************************
** HEMP FOR VICTORY ** 1942 **
**********************************
**********************************

-------------- 1970-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
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[No matches.]
-------------- 1969-A.txt --------------
---- index_1969-A.txt
[No matches.]
-------------- 1969-B.txt --------------
---- index_1969-B.txt
[No matches.]
-------------- 1971-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1971-B.txt --------------
[No matches.]

*****************************
*****************************
** JUNGLE BOOK ** 1942 **
*****************************
*****************************

-------------- 1970-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
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[No matches.]
-------------- 1969-A.txt --------------
---- index_1969-A.txt
[No matches.]
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---- index_1969-B.txt
[No matches.]
-------------- 1971-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
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[No matches.]

*******************************
*******************************
** DEAD MEN WALK ** 1943 **
*******************************
*******************************

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[No matches.]
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****************************
****************************
** THE OUTLAW ** 1943 **
****************************
****************************

-------------- 1971-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
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[No matches.]
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[No matches.]

*****************************************
*****************************************
** MAN FROM MUSIC MOUNTAIN ** 1943 **
*****************************************
*****************************************

-------------- 1971-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
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*****************************
*****************************
** GLAMOUR GAL ** 1945 **
*****************************
*****************************

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******************************
******************************
** THE STRANGER ** 1946 **
******************************
******************************

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---- index_1975-A.txt
[No matches.]
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[No matches.]

*********************************
*********************************
** DRESSED TO KILL ** 1946 **
*********************************
*********************************

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[No matches.]
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[No matches.]
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---- index_1975-A.txt
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**************************************
**************************************
** MY FAVORITE BRUNETTE ** 1947 **
**************************************
**************************************

-------------- 1975-A.txt --------------
---- index_1975-A.txt
[No matches.]
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[No matches.]
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[No matches.]
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[No matches.]
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**************************************
**************************************
** ANGEL AND THE BADMAN ** 1947 **
**************************************
**************************************

-------------- 1975-A.txt --------------
---- index_1975-A.txt
[No matches.]
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[No matches.]
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[No matches.]
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[No matches.]
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[No matches.]

************************
************************
** IMPACT ** 1949 **
************************
************************

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[No matches.]
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[No matches.]
-------------- 1976-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1976-B.txt --------------
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***************************************
***************************************
** THE INSPECTOR GENERAL ** 1949 **
***************************************
***************************************

-------------- 1977-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1977-B.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1976-A.txt --------------
[No matches.]
-------------- 1976-B.txt --------------
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Renewals found:

FREAKS, a photoplay in seven reels by
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Distributing
Corp. (C) 23Feb32; L287O. Loew's,
Inc. (PWH); 2Mar59; R232434.

A STAR IS SHORN, a photoplay in two
reels by Columbia Pictures Corp. of
California. (C) l4Feb39; LP8632.
Columbia Pictures Corp. (PWH);
8Dec66; R399603.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Summary
(If no renewal was found, the line begins with "-- no --".
Otherwise, the line begins with a number representing how
closely the title was matched; 0.00 means a perfect match,
and 0.18, for example, would indicate a poor match.)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


-- no -- ABRAHAM LINCOLN (1930)
-- no -- THE BLUE ANGEL (1930)
-- no -- THE FRONT PAGE (1931)
-- no -- M (1931)
-- no -- A FAREWELL TO ARMS (1932)
-- no -- HELL'S HOUSE (1932)
0.00 FREAKS (1932)
-- no -- ECSTASY (1933)
-- no -- I COVER THE WATERFRONT (1933)
-- no -- RANDY RIDES ALONE (1934)
-- no -- SABOTAGE (1936)
-- no -- DANCING PIRATE (1936)
-- no -- SECRET AGENT (1936)
-- no -- REEFER MADNESS (1936)
-- no -- DARK JOURNEY (1937)
0.13 A STAR IS BORN (1937)
-- no -- DIVORCE OF LADY X (1938)
-- no -- TERROR OF TINY TOWN (1938)
-- no -- ALGIERS (1938)
-- no -- THE LADY VANISHES (1938)
-- no -- MAN FROM MUSIC MOUNTAIN (1938)
-- no -- THEY MADE ME A CRIMINAL (1939)
-- no -- GULLIVER'S TRAVELS (1939)
-- no -- HIS GIRL FRIDAY (1940)
-- no -- SANTA FE TRAIL (1940)
-- no -- KING OF THE ZOMBIES (1941)
-- no -- MEET JOHN DOE (1941)
-- no -- PENNY SERENADE (1941)
-- no -- HEMP FOR VICTORY (1942)
-- no -- JUNGLE BOOK (1942)
-- no -- DEAD MEN WALK (1943)
-- no -- THE OUTLAW (1943)
-- no -- MAN FROM MUSIC MOUNTAIN (1943)
-- no -- GLAMOUR GAL (1945)
-- no -- THE STRANGER (1946)
-- no -- DRESSED TO KILL (1946)
-- no -- MY FAVORITE BRUNETTE (1947)
-- no -- ANGEL AND THE BADMAN (1947)
-- no -- IMPACT (1949)
-- no -- THE INSPECTOR GENERAL (1949)


2 of 40 renewed. (5%)

(The copyright renewal register for the second half of 1961
was provided by Mystic550.)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Jan 6, 2011 3:24am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: An Inside Job?

21 of the films listed on the blog were copyright (mostly GATTs) but of them 8 were US films that were registered, renewed and/or contained notices and were never PD. I posted the list on jake@archive.org's original post and sent a message to the blogger pointing out the errors.